“How shall we picture the kingdom of God, or by what parable shall we present it? 31 “It is like a mustard seed, which, when sown upon the soil, though it is smaller than all the seeds that are upon the soil, 32 yet when it is sown, it grows up and becomes larger than all the garden plants and forms large branches;
There are many seeds smaller than a mustard seed like orchid seeds some can spawn up to 35 million microscopic seeds per ounce and many trees larger than a mustard tree like the Eucalyptus Regnans one of which grew to 492 feet.
This is either a plain bald face lie by a Man who is supposed to be God and should know everything or an ignorant mistake by a 2000 year old Rabbi who couldn%26#039;t be expected to know any better.
What do you think?
Mark 4:30 Isn%26#039;t Jesus lying when he says?
And why would you assume that the audience he was speaking to was aware of the these smaller seeds? Even if one knew of a smaller seed, or bigger growth, this wasn%26#039;t a talk on botany, it was used as an analogy. So your point is way off base.
Reply:he might known every thing but his listener must have known everything to understand it. he was speaking to lay persons.
by your theory he must have first teach them science then began to preach.
i am a computer science student, i known the difference between the processor and the mother board but how can i expect others to understand me when i say %26quot;be as speed as a processor!%26quot; it would be meaningful to say %26quot;be as speed as a cheta etc...!%26quot;
have a nice day
Reply:JEsus was speaking concerning the catholic churches which is now where bird%26#039;s are nesting.. burds in the Bible signifies the devil, the catholic church today is where satan dwells... it became so big that the devil can dwell in it with the demons of course
Reply:I didn%26#039;t know they have Eucalyptus trees in Israel! I thought those only grew in Australia! silly me! Its called a parable because it parallels with the life and times of the people to whom the story is being told...he probably used the mustard tree because the people of that region were familiar with the mustard tree.
Reply:God always uses the seed/harvest parables to describe what will happen. The central truth here is although God%26#039;s work in Jesus was currently very small, apparently insignificant, and making little visable headway, His kingdom would grow eventually worldwide and have global impact.
Read the King James Mark 4:30-32
And he said, Whereunto shall we liken the kingdom of God?or with what comparison shall we compare it?
It is like a grain of mustard seed, whicfh, when it is sown in the earth, is less than all the seeds that be in the earth:
But when it is sown, it groweth up, and becometh greater than all HERBS, and shooteth out great branches; so that the fowls of the air may lodge under the shadow of it.
Jesus didn%26#039;t say the mustard seed was smaller than the orchid seed. It was the smallest seed planted in the earth in that day that grew the largest proportion.
The mustard seed is unusually small and yet grows to a great size. The tiny beginning of the kingdom would grow to a great size. Such numerical growth would come to harbor the birds/fowl (evil ones) Growth of church into world power. However, outward growth is not always a true picture of spiritual depth. Kingdom of heaven is the spiritual form of the kingdom in the church.
Reply:It is metaphorical. However, the jews probably only knew of the mustard seed- orchids were not grown in that area of the world. Jesus used what the people were familiar with to explain the kingdom of God. Does that help?
Reply:you didn%26#039;t get the point. he was speaking metaphorically.
Reply:yes this proves he was absolute complete idiot
Reply:God does not lie....he does not know sin. You need to compleley understand the Bible and the context in which it was written. Anyone can pick apart the Bible and TRY to find inconsistencies. It%26#039;s called FAITH to belive completley and not question the Word of God. The human mind cannot fathom the power of God - did you read that part of the Bible?
Reply:he m ight be lying after all he was human
Reply:Your translation is pretty poor. If you impose the limitations of the original, you%26#039;ll find it a bit more likely...
Lachanon, the Greek word used here refers to food plants, not all of the plantae kingdom. The context limits the comparison of both the size of the seed and the size of the plant to those which are FOOD.
... His comparison involves herbs, fruits and vegetables... not trees or ornamentals.
Reply:It%26#039;s a symbolic parable, please learn that, thanks.
Reply:It was probably just the smallest seed he knew,that grew to the largest thing he knew. He was after all confined to the Middle East therefore he cant be expected to know every plant. Did I mention he was just a human being with a very extensive religious education given to him in the close to 30 years that no one hears hardly anything about. After all if you are going to claim your son is the son of God he better know a thing or two. So why did he wait so long to start his ministry since if he was the son of god he would have all the knowledge needed for his ministry at birth,it%26#039;s always the details that blow holes in any good story.
Reading these other answers where if a mistake is proven then it was a %26quot;metaphor%26quot; but when you can%26#039;t prove it wrong then it%26#039;s literal,like Hell. Gotta love those win win situations created by intellectual dishonesty.
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Reply:Yes there are tinier seeds than mustard seeds. But Jesus is not giving a lesson in botany. Of the seeds that Galileans of his day are familiar with, the mustard seed really is the tiniest. So they appreciate the matter of phenomenal growth that Jesus is illustrating.
Reply:Jesus never lied there is no way He could do that. You can%26#039;t take a parable and try to interpret it your way. The human mind can not hear. It is written in Isaiah that The Lord says %26#039;%26#039;My Thoughts are not your thoughts%26quot;. Jesus spoke in parables to plant a seed in our souls it is spiritual teaching but our human nature can not hear. The son of man ( Jesus Christ) is through the whole Bible not just the Gospels. You have to compare the scriptures with the scriptures. I don%26#039;t know the whole Bible only God (Jesus, the Father and Son are one; spiritual ) knows, He does if you seek Him( and the best way is by trembling and fear) to give us wisdom to understand. I can give you something to think about. In Revelation Jesus says to the church of Laodicea to buy gold refined by fire. Does that mean to go out and buy and sell gold for a living so that you will be rich? No, what it means is through the Bible the word of God is gold and to buy it is to buy it spiritually and keep it in our soul. To be refined by fire is to learn by study. It is written that God is described as a consuming fire ( remember He appeared to Moses as a burning bush?) If reading the Bible doesn%26#039;t teach us that we are all desperately lost spiritually dead sinners that deserve hell for our disobedience, then there was no point of Jesus coming down to earth from His throne was there? When Jesus left HIs disciples after His resurrection He told them to receive the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit convicts us of sin. Not many people want to hear that but unless we do that we can%26#039;t be saved from our sins. We have human ears and we hear the things of the world. Pray to God in Jesus name to open our spiritual ears. Read Matthew chapter 6 where Jesus taught the prayer to pray. Read John chapter17 how Jesus prayed for His elect. There is no other name given under Heaven for salvation than The Lord Jesus Christ. I pray that I helped you understand some. Faith comes by hearing. The Bible talks to us, don%26#039;t quench the Spirit. Fear God
Reply:The mustard seed was used in this parable b/c it is the purest and can%26#039;t be cross breed (geneticly altered) w/ any other seed . It is one of the seed unchanged since the begin.
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